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The Sustainable Commodities Podcast tackles everything from the palm oil paradox to the cocoa conundrum.
The podcast series will raise awareness about the importance of sustainable commodities like palm oil, soya, cocoa and coffee and shine a light on good work done with sustainable commodities worldwide.
The podcast is a joint venture between sustainability marketing agency One Nine Nine and sustainable palm oil experts Judith Murdoch Associates.
Episode 1

How the incoming EU Deforestation Regulation will impact businesses and sustainable commodities?
We discuss the incoming EU Deforestation Regulation. The incoming 2024 legislation means that businesses importing, exporting or trading coffee, soy, wood, rubber, cattle and palm oil in the EU must demonstrate that these commodities haven’t come from land deforested since 2020. And it requires that there's full traceability for those commodities. The podcast discusses how this will be implemented and what it means for sustainable commodities.
Episode 2

Sustainable Palm Oil - The RSPO & EUDR
Ruben Brunsveld, the Deputy Director of EMEA for the Roundtable on Sustainable Palm Oil joins co-hosts Barnaby and Judith to talk about EUDR and sustainable palm oil. How ready are members for EUDR? Is RSPO certified sustainable palm oil compliant? How is the RSPO helping members to prepare for EUDR? How does the palm oil supply chain compare to other commodities? Will EUDR come in on schedule and in full?
Episode 3

A catch-up with Manuel Davila about the EUDR
Manuel Davila, Managing Director of Daabon Europe and UK joins Judith and Barnaby to talk about sustainable palm oil, and the impact of upcoming deforestation legislation like EUDR and UKDD. Topics covered include the potential impact on price and availability of palm, how prepared the industry is for EUDR, the importance of sustainable palm oil, and the risks to smallholders worldwide.
Episode 4

A catch-up with Rob Daykin of Daykin Partnership
This week, Judith and Barnaby are joined by animal feed and livestock farming expert, Rob Daykin, from Daykin Partnership. Topics discussed include which sustainable commodities are used in animal feed, how upcoming legislation like EUDR and UKDD will impact on the supply chain in the UK, and the challenges facing livestock farmers in terms of sustainability, climate and costs.
With over 30 years experience and know-how in the animal feed and dairy industry, Daykin Partnership provides up to the minute statistics, data and insights, with animal welfare and sustainability at the heart of everything they do.
Episode 5

A catch-up with Gary Lewis, Sales Director for KTC Edibles
This week, special guest Gary Lewis, President of National Edible Oil Distributors’ Association (NEODA) and Sales Director for KTC Edibles, Britain’s largest independent manufacturer and distributor of edible oils, joins the podcast.
From sustainability and smallholders to price and supply, Gary talks to Judith and Barnaby about the impact of upcoming deforestation legislation in the EU and UK, and the challenges facing operators across the edible oils sector in the UK.
Expect discussions on palm oil, soya oil and rapeseed oil, as well as further insights into EUDR and UKDD.
Episode 6

Deforestation, Sustainability and Orangutans with Michelle Desilets
On this episode, Judith and Barnaby are joined by Michelle Desilets, Founder and Executive Director of Orangutan Land Trust. Michelle is an extremely influential international spokesperson for the orangutan and a key player in the campaign for sustainable palm oil - who has spent a career tirelessly working to ensure the long-term survival of the orangutan in the wild.
Topics covered include the current landscape around deforestation, the role of legislation such as EUDR in protecting biodiversity, and what the future looks like for orangutans.
Orangutan Land Trust's primary objective is to secure designated forest habitats that are safe for orangutans. The organisation is dedicated to the conservation, restoration, and safeguarding of forested regions in areas where orangutans naturally live or have historically lived.
Episode 7

Transparency and Deforestation Free Supply Chains with Leah Samberg
On this episode, Judith and Barnaby are joined by Leah Samberg, PhD. Leah is the Lead Scientist for the Accountability Framework initiative, a programme of the Rainforest Alliance. Leah’s LinkedIn profile describes her role as “Figuring out how to feed everyone without trashing the place!”.
The episode focuses on the work of the Accountability Framework initiative, and the results of a new report - Time for Transparency. Other topics include the role of legislation and certification, and what businesses can do to bridge the gap when it comes to achieving deforestation free supply chains.
The Rainforest Alliance of course is an international non-profit organisation, that is building an alliance to protect forests, improve the livelihoods of farmers and forest communities, promote their human rights, and help them mitigate and adapt to the climate crisis.
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Episode 6

Deforestation, Sustainability and Orangutans with Michelle Desilets
On this episode, Judith and Barnaby are joined by Michelle Desilets, Founder and Executive Director of Orangutan Land Trust. Michelle is an extremely influential international spokesperson for the orangutan and a key player in the campaign for sustainable palm oil - who has spent a career tirelessly working to ensure the long-term survival of the orangutan in the wild.
Topics covered include the current landscape around deforestation, the role of legislation such as EUDR in protecting biodiversity, and what the future looks like for orangutans.
Orangutan Land Trust's primary objective is to secure designated forest habitats that are safe for orangutans. The organisation is dedicated to the conservation, restoration, and safeguarding of forested regions in areas where orangutans naturally live or have historically lived.
Episode 7

Transparency and Deforestation Free Supply Chains with Leah Samberg
On this episode, Judith and Barnaby are joined by Leah Samberg, PhD. Leah is the Lead Scientist for the Accountability Framework initiative, a programme of the Rainforest Alliance. Leah’s LinkedIn profile describes her role as “Figuring out how to feed everyone without trashing the place!”.
The episode focuses on the work of the Accountability Framework initiative, and the results of a new report - Time for Transparency. Other topics include the role of legislation and certification, and what businesses can do to bridge the gap when it comes to achieving deforestation free supply chains.
The Rainforest Alliance of course is an international non-profit organisation, that is building an alliance to protect forests, improve the livelihoods of farmers and forest communities, promote their human rights, and help them mitigate and adapt to the climate crisis.
Satellite Data, Deforestation & EUDR with Orla Grovel
Judith and Barnaby are joined by Olya Grovel, Chief Growth Officer at Orbify – a Satellite Data Platform for Nature Conservation and Anti Deforestation Compliance.
The episode focuses on deforestation, satellite monitoring and of course, the looming EUDR legislation!
How do companies navigate the complexities of anti-deforestation compliance?
Why is satellite data so essential in preventing deforestation?
What will the impact of EUDR be?
Where do certification schemes fit into the sustainability picture?
Episode 9

Oils and Fats with Professor Erik Meijaard
Professor Erik Meijaard joins us for a very special episode of the show! In addition to being a leading conservation scientist and Managing Director of Borneo Futures, Erik is the co-chair of the IUCN Oil Palm Task Force.
The IUCN - International Union for Conservation of Nature is the now the world’s largest and most diverse environmental network and a leading provider of conservation data, assessments and analysis.
We talk about a new IUCN report - Exploring the future of vegetable oils. Eric was the lead author on the report, which explores the implications of oil crops - looking at fats, forests, forecasts and futures!
Topics covered include the environmental pressures caused by oils and fats, taking a holistic view on oil crops, and why there’s no such thing as a ‘good’ or ‘bad’ oil crop.
Episode 10

RSPO RT2024 Special – Chester Zoo, World Resources Institute, Proforest and more!
This special solo episode features short conversations recorded with delegates at RT2024 – the flagship event of the Roundtable on Sustainable Palm Oil (RSPO), which was held in Bangkok, Thailand in November 2024.
Guests include Cat Barton from Chester Zoo, Leo Bottrill from MapHubs, Shofia Saleh from World Resources Institute (WRI) Indonesia, Taufiq Alimi from Proforest and Luca Fischer from Koltiva.
We talk about the conference, the state of the palm oil industry, supply chain traceability, the plight of smallholders in Southeast Asia and of course, the potential impact of EUDR.
Please note that conversations were recorded just before the vote on EUDR – join us next time for our analysis on the delays to the legislation!
Episode 11

2024 Roundup and 2025 Preview – EUDR and Beyond
A special 2024 roundup episode, where Barnaby and Judith talk about the biggest themes in sustainable commodities over the last 12 months, before looking ahead to 2025.
Topics covered include honest thoughts on the EUDR saga and the delay, talk about the challenges, opportunities and themes in sustainability for 2025, and news on big plans for the podcast over the next year.
Episode 12

Nuts About Sustainability - Dan Binks, Liberation Foods
In this episode, we are talking about nuts! Our guest today is Dan Binks, the Managing Director of Liberation Foods - the UK’s only Fairtrade, Farmer Owned nut company.
Topics covered include sustainability challenges facing the nut industry, smallholder inclusion, biodiversity and the value of certification systems like Fairtrade.
Episode 13

The Meat of the Matter – Ruaraidh Petre, Global Roundtable For Sustainable Beef
Can beef be sustainable?
Find out in the latest episode of The Sustainable Commodities Podcast, with special guest Ruaraidh Petre, Executive Director of the Global Roundtable For Sustainable Beef.
Topics covered include sustainability issues and animal welfare in beef farming and how to improve them, the scalability of regenerative beef, consumer trends in beef consumption, misconceptions, sustainability legislation and much more!
Ruaraidh also gives his opinion on recent cow controversies, like the media frenzy around ARLA and the Bovaer feed additive and the culling of cattle to meet carbon targets.
Episode 13
Episode 14

Responsible Retailing - Alastair Pattrick, Sustainable Sourcing Manager at Co-op
What is the Co-op doing around sustainable sourcing? Our first guest from a major retailer - Alistair Pattrick, sustainable sourcing manager at the Co-op, joins the podcast. We talk sustainability challenges, supply chain risks, deforestation, traceability, EUDR and what suppliers need to do in terms of sustainability if they want to work with the Co-op!
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